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1. [livejournal.com profile] doorrepairgirl, I note that this contains some Battle of the Smithsonian clips that feed your OTP.

2. I watched twenty minutes of American Idol tonight and I think that'll hold me for another couple years.

3. Oh dear, I was quite looking forward to the crazy weird uber-slashy Guy Ritchie Sherlock Holmes until I actually saw the trailer. Considering my recent experiences with promising-ness of trailers vs. actual interest level of the film when I actually see it (hint: it has not been a strong correlation) I think I will just ignore the trailer and continue looking forward to the movie.

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Date: 2009-05-21 06:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doorrepairgirl.livejournal.com
"You're threatening Julie Andrews with your time machine?"

First of all, those boys are frigging hilarious. I could hardly love Thomas Lennon more than I do right now.

Secondly: I AM SO EXCITED ABOUT THIS MOVIE BUT I AM STUPID AND PROMISED I WOULD WAIT TIL NEXT WEEK TO SEE IT WITH PEOPLE. This is only going to make it harder to resist sneaking off to pre-see it by myself. I mean, there's peril! Birdcage-style peril! (Er, a literal cage for birds, not like Robin Williams and Nathan Lane peril.) (I have totally lost track of any logical point I was ever trying to make here.) In conclusion, thank you for that excellent link.


Re: Holmes - I found the trailer sort of hilarious and bizarre, so I'm still excited about it. I mean, when I saw the promo photos that were floating around I guess I was picturing a kind of Masterpiece Theatre-y thing that happened to star RDJ and Jude Law, which I now realize would possibly end up being more bizarre to watch than what they actually appear to be doing. (I must also admit that I've only ever read like 1.5 actual Holmes stories, and most of my knowledge of Sherlockian myth comes from those crazy holodeck episodes of TNG and an epic Garak/Bashir fic I read at some point that paralleled The Hound of the Baskervilles. So basically cracktastic Holmes is my kind of Holmes.)

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Date: 2009-05-21 02:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-improbable.livejournal.com
Wait, I--I don't know what the peril is if it's a literal cage for birds. I was prepared to accept the premise of there being a Birdcage style of peril that involved concealing vital information and wacky misunderstanding hijinks? maybe it's that I haven't had my coffee yet.

*has coffee*

Nope, still don't know what kind of peril it is. Bet you're gay.

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Date: 2009-05-21 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-improbable.livejournal.com
I don't mind cracktastic Holmes. I really, really don't. I just don't feel like the "Sherlock Holmes tries to do something heroic and then like hits his head on something or gets chained up naked or whatever and makes a wisecrack, just like every post-Whedon hero" schtick bodes well. All the previous promotional information suggested that there was a genuine appreciation of what makes Holmes Holmes going on in this cracked-out take on the mythos, though, so I choose to remain hopeful.

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Date: 2009-05-21 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doorrepairgirl.livejournal.com
I was up too late & caffeinated when I wrote that, so you'd think coffee would help with the translation. ;) I just meant the clip where Pharoah Hank Azaria has Jedediah in a birdcage (literal cage for birds, although not containing any birds at the time) and Octavius is looking on angstily from the window. So, you know, peril! From which Octavius will need to rescue him! And there will probably be hugging! (There's also a bit I saw in one of the ads where it looks like Jed's trapped in an hourglass. Oh noes!)


Of course, my brain is now trying to write the Jedediah/Octavius version of the Birdcage, and it's very difficult because it requires them to have an offspring of some sort. Well, no, actually it would mean Jed had a fling back in the day with an awesome gal from, I don't know, the 'Industrial Revolution Era London' diorama...

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Date: 2009-05-21 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doorrepairgirl.livejournal.com
Ah, okay, I admit I wasn't really watching the trailer for character nuances (and trailers are so misleading about things like that anyway.) I really just watched it the one time, and came away with an impression of way more punching than I'd been expecting. And... a vampire? Or something? (I clearly haven't been doing any research into the plot of this thing, I've just been perusing the slashy pictures folks have been posting.)

the canon is actually kind of weird

Date: 2009-05-21 08:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-improbable.livejournal.com
...a suspicion of vampiric activity is not necessarily not a direct allusion to the Holmes canon.

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Date: 2009-05-21 09:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] very-improbable.livejournal.com
OH, the BOYS ARE IN PERIL. I thought your movie-going commitments were somehow in peril. I NO LONGER HAVE READING COMPREHENSION.

Well, I mean, keep in mind I haven't seen the first movie, is Octavius supposed to in some way "be" the historical Augustus, or what? Because if so, he has a headstrong child from an earlier marriage (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julia_the_Elder), but I think the comedic PG version of her life might just make me cry...

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Date: 2009-05-22 06:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doorrepairgirl.livejournal.com
Okay, so, in the first movie, the Teddy Roosevelt statue in the museum (Robin Williams) tells Larry (Ben Stiller) that he has the memories and whatever of Teddy Roosevelt, but he knows he's not the real thing. So, presumably Octavius does have the memories of the historical Octavian/Augustus, but he's a) tiny, and b) been living in the museum for 50 years, so there's probably been some drift from his original personality. And he's speaking English instead of Latin and blah blah blah (you can only apply so much logic to this movie before things start to unravel.) (Having seen that interview and learned that both the movies were written in bars makes me feel better about this fact.)

So, yeah, in theory Julia could be present, but only if the display in the museum is detailed enough to include members of Octavian's actual family. And as you say, it'd be hard to fit her life into a comedy in a respectful way. Eek.
I did come up with a cracktastic premise for the Birdcage parallel: the kid's S.O. is from some new display on Hannibal and/or Carthage, so when Jed & Octavius go to meet the S.O.'s parents it is vitally important that they don't find out Octavius is a Roman! So you get wacky hijinks with Octavius in cowboy gear. And there would be some obligatory elephant content. And so forth.

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